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The Todd Bentley Restoration - Part III
Questions and Answers
By Rick Joyner
The following are some of the most common questions we continue to receive concerning Todd Bentley’s restoration. It is my intent to be as straightforward and comprehensive as possible. However, some of the answers may be a little lengthy, so you may want to skip over the ones that are not important to you personally. Thank you again for the great interest and the many helpful comments and questions that you have sent concerning this issue. I pray this will be helpful to you. RJ.
Why did I feel qualified to take on Todd’s restoration?
I did not feel qualified to take on Todd’s restoration. Neither did I want to or expect to, but when I felt called to do this, I resolved to be obedient. In fact, I don’t feel qualified to do almost anything I have been called to do. My encouragement has been that this seemed to be precisely the way that the Lord chose His own apostles who were to lay the foundation for His church. When you do not feel qualified to do something, it casts you in greater dependence upon the Holy Spirit, which I think is more important to the Lord than what we may humanly tend to think of as qualifications. As the Apostle Paul noted, it is in our weakness that His strength can be made perfect.
I took this project on mostly out of obedience, trusting the Lord to make up for my deficiencies. The New Testament ministry is a team ministry, and I felt that I could call on many to help who would have more knowledge, wisdom, and abilities where I was deficient. Many, especially in our own home congregation, have stepped forward and have been a great help, probably doing much more than I have in this. Some of the help has come from very unlikely sources, but it was the hand of the Lord. I look for the hand of the Lord so I can follow Him.
I live in a place where I constantly think I am in way over my head with the responsibilities I have. I need miracles to make it through almost every day because of this, and though it is a very exciting way to live, I can’t claim to always enjoy it. However, I do think it drives me much closer to the Lord, and watching Him make up for my deficiencies with His interventions has been one my great joys, and one of the most helpful ways for me to get to know Him and His ways.
How much does anyone know?
I’ve asked some top medical doctors how much they really understand about the human body, and the most any have said is about 30 percent. I’ve asked them, including psychiatrists, how much they understand about the human psyche, the soul, and the mind. I’ve had top people say they probably only understand about 5 percent. These are the professionals who have spent years and years studying to be able to do what they do. Though I think a Christian counselor who is firmly rooted in biblical truth can understand much more, I do think only God can do soul surgery without potentially hurting people.
John Wimber once told me he felt that letting amateur inner healing specialists into the Vineyard Movement was one of the biggest mistakes he ever made. I had the opportunity to spend a lot of time talking to John about why he felt this way. I also had my own horror stories from this, some of which were of my own making when I was so arrogant that I thought I could fix other people when I was not even doing a very good job of fixing myself. I have seen many lives seriously hurt, and even marriages wrecked by bad counsel, regardless of how well-intended it may have been. Yet I have never given up on believing that we need a strong counseling ministry in the church, and I know some who have had very positive experiences with counselors.
Even so, I would not trust any Christian counselor who is not dependent in a most profound way on the Holy Spirit for their work. Those who are arrogant enough to think they can easily fix other people are some of the scariest people I know. These are God’s kids we’re talking about, the royalty of the earth, and it is a fearful thing to touch them, much less dig around in their souls. For this reason, I would not have touched this situation with Todd without knowing I had the call of God to do it, and for the most part, I think I’m just here to watch Him work.
I would be very understanding of anyone who might think of me as unqualified to oversee Todd’s restoration. I can think of many I would consider better for this, but in truth, I may have been the only one willing.
Second Reason
The next reason why I got involved in Todd’s restoration is the belief that the body of Christ is doomed to continued defeat until we learn to obey Galatians 6:1, “If a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one, doing this in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourselves lest you also be tempted” (NKJV). Until we learn to restore the fallen, and as this verse states, from “any trespass,” our testimony of the truth of the gospel to redeem and restore is undermined and marginalized.
The phrase “any trespass” here has greatly stretched and challenged me in recent years, possibly more than anything else. However, anything else would be limiting the cross, and we must learn to restore those who have fallen in “any trespass” for the cross to fully work among us. Isn’t that what Jesus went to the cross for?
Third Reason
Third, I was shown Todd’s calling years ago and know that he is destined to lead many millions to salvation. He is also called to help raise the level of faith in the body of Christ to the point where there would be no sick among us, even in the times of the worst plagues on the earth. I am willing to do anything I can to see such a ministry saved and positioned for its purpose.
This has already paid off in huge dividends. Since we have released Todd back into limited ministry in our local church, schools, and conferences, the fruit has been extraordinary. We have already had several confirmed death sentences from cancer cancelled, and possibly more that we have not received the doctor’s reports back on yet. What kind of price could ever be put on something like that? Todd is called to release special authority over cancer, and any family ever touched by this terrible evil I think would also be willing to pay just about any price to see that ministry raised up in the church.
Fourth Reason
I felt that going through this restoration process would lead to understanding some basic things about the plague of divorce and receive some answers that would help shut this terrible gate of hell now destroying the church and our nation. I was right.
Like many of the great issues of our times, the problems are complex, but the answers are usually very simple. As Tolstoy began one of the greatest novels ever written, Anna Karenina, “Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way.” This may sound too simplistic, but it is a profound truth. This novel deals especially with many of the ultimate issues of family and divorce. It took the genius of Tolstoy to do this with such power and depth of insight, yet the whole conclusion of the matter is summed up in this first sentence of the novel!
The truth is that happy, successful families all have certain basics in common. The basics are not difficult to understand, and though it would be a lie to say they can be difficult to do at times, it is much easier to do them than not to. Without question, if we do the basics required of us as Christians in relation to marriage, or anything else, our lives will be far better, far happier, and far more successful. If we do not do the basics, we will pay a terrible price, and we will likely pay it every day for the rest of our lives because the cost of divorce is that great.
Summary
No doubt some of the criticism I have received for the way I’ve gone about the restoration of Todd may be deserved, and much of it has been helpful. I try to be open to see more and do anything I’m doing better. However, some of the criticism we’ve received has been remarkably foolish and contrary to the clear teachings of Scripture. This could be one of the root causes for the church not being able to heal itself of this plague of divorce.
I’m especially surprised by how many Christians have asserted that if I restore Todd to ministry, it will open the floodgates of divorce. First, how much wider could these floodgates get? They are already wide open! It is obvious that what we are doing is not working. I would think that the state of the church in this matter would lead to some serious humility and being a bit more teachable.
Another level of shock came when I found that many who were the most critical and the most vocal of Todd’s restoration had been through a divorce themselves, and most without going through any restoration for their failure. From my perspective, this was a shocking level of both hypocrisy and hardness of heart.
I was surprised by how many insisted that I hear everything that Todd had done from his former wife, which I agree is valid and had to be done. However, these same people did not make any attempt to ask if there was another side, and there is always another side to such issues.
I was surprised and saddened by how the same ones who insisted Todd take care of his former wife and kids financially, also insisted that he flip burgers for a living for several years before he should be restored. This is not just a matter of integrity, but basic math!
This has been the ugly part of what has surfaced in some of the body of Christ, and it has been disheartening at times, but it by no means reflects the whole body of Christ, which by far has been gracious, generous, and encouraging. It is a terrible deception to judge any group by their most extreme elements. The extreme do tend to be the most vocal, and often try to project themselves as the voice for the whole, but such have been a tiny percentage of the body of Christ we have heard from. If our experience though this is much of a barometer of where the church is, then the church is rich in grace, mercy, and the desire for truth.
Because we know in part, see in part, and even prophesy in part, I would never claim to have the whole answer to something as significant as this terrible enemy that divorce is. I do claim to have some of the answers, and they may be some of the most important ones for stopping this terrible plague. Again, I cannot present them in one Bulletin, but I will attempt to present them systematically over the rest of this year. I’m also quite sure that some of these answers have never been considered by most Christians, and they may seem shocking at first, but they are soundly biblical. I think if you read them with openness, you will see the wisdom in them.
I am convinced that the most devastating mistake the church has made in regard to marriage has been to substitute the traditions of men for the commandments of God. Much of what is taught about Christian marriage is based more on human idealism than biblical truth, and though it may sound good and reasonable—its effect has been devastating. Some of God’s wisdom also seems foolish to men at first, but if we are teachable and humble before the Lord, I think He will open our eyes to what actually works. This leads to a very important question I will address in the next Special Bulletin on Todd’s restoration.
Rick Joyner, 6/4/2010 |
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Where do your crumbs come from? |
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Matt 15:21-31 From there Jesus took a trip to Tyre and Sidon. 22 They had hardly arrived when a Canaanite woman came down from the hills and pleaded, "Mercy, Master, Son of David! My daughter is cruelly afflicted by an evil spirit."
23 Jesus ignored her. The disciples came and complained, "Now she's bothering us. Would you please take care of her? She's driving us crazy."
24 Jesus refused, telling them, "I've got my hands full dealing with the lost sheep of Israel."
25 Then the woman came back to Jesus, went to her knees, and begged. "Master, help me."
26 He said, "It's not right to take bread out of children's mouths and throw it to dogs."
27 She was quick: "You're right, Master, but beggar dogs do get scraps from the master's table."
28 Jesus gave in. "Oh, woman, your faith is something else. What you want is what you get!" Right then her daughter became well.
29 After Jesus returned, he walked along Lake Galilee and then climbed a mountain and took his place, ready to receive visitors. 30 They came, tons of them, bringing along the paraplegic, the blind, the maimed, the mute — all sorts of people in need — and more or less threw them down at Jesus' feet to see what he would do with them. He healed them. 31 When the people saw the mutes speaking, the maimed healthy, the paraplegics walking around, the blind looking around, they were astonished and let everyone know that God was blazingly alive among them. THE MESSAGE:
It is the pits when we don’t fit in with the group, the “in” crowd. We can have problems that need fixing. They can have answers yet not seem to want to share them. We could be from the wrong place with the wrong problems or just born in the wrong place.
Somehow, though, in God’s Kingdom, people get some crumbs.
Sometime, people will begin to know them, not for their history, but for their destiny. |
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God without the Guilt
Romans 21-31 (The Message) “But in our time something new has been added. What Moses and the prophets witnessed to all those years has happened. The God-setting-things-right that we read about has become Jesus-setting-things-right for us. And not only for us, but for everyone who believes in him. For there is no difference between us and them in this. Since we've compiled this long and sorry record as sinners (both us and them) and proved that we are utterly incapable of living the glorious lives God wills for us, God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. God sacrificed Jesus on the altar of the world to clear that world of sin. Having faith in him sets us in the clear. God decided on this course of action in full view of the public—to set the world in the clear with himself through the sacrifice of Jesus, finally taking care of the sins he had so patiently endured. This is not only clear, but it's now—this is current history! God sets things right. He also makes it possible for us to live in his rightness. So where does that leave our proud Jewish insider claims and counter-claims? Canceled? Yes, canceled. What we've learned is this: God does not respond to what we do; we respond to what God does. We've finally figured it out. Our lives get in step with God and all others by letting him set the pace, not by proudly or anxiously trying to run the parade. And where does that leave our proud Jewish claim of having a corner on God? Also canceled. God is the God of outsider non-Jews as well as insider Jews. How could it be otherwise since there is only one God? God sets right all who welcome his action and enter into it, both those who follow our religious system and those who have never heard of our religion. But by shifting our focus from what we do to what God does, don't we cancel out all our careful keeping of the rules and ways God commanded? Not at all. What happens, in fact, is that by putting that entire way of life in its proper place, we confirm it.”
It’s time to fully equip the people to begin activating the word of God. Instead of beating down, we need to be encouraging and enlightening and portraying a more exciting view of being saved than what has previously set us apart from the world.
Our vigilante services of upholding the law until Jesus comes back is giving people supersized servings of guilt with our regular portions of God. We are putting the very people we should be setting free into a different type of bondage using their sins to bind them. Instead of allowing them to walk in the fullness of God, we trip each other up in our tangled webs of deceit, not allowing the subject or the tormentor to fulfill their purposes. We expect others to give us unconditional love while feeling it is our duty to remove the planks from their eyes. What we forget is that the sliver in our own eye can often be just as distracting from truly seeking the will of the Father. By creating the distraction of what the people in the church are doing, Satan gains access into a place that he is not welcome. What may be a plank to one, may only be a sliver to another, yet it causes each of us to stumble.
God did not leave a remnant on earth with the directive of policing the people, but to go out and reach the multitudes. His love was for relationships, not rules. We miss the point when we puff ourselves up in pride by putting a value system on sin, making sure our total isn't as great as the rest of the world. As we purpose to be drawing near the Father's heart, it's time to drop the swords that are cutting off ears and allow the ones who persecute us in closer than arms length. Jesus put that ear back on, even though he knew why that soldier was there. He looked past what he was presented with and still touched that life in spite of the soldier's mission that day. When we choose to get married our eyes are full of the good and wonderful things about our beloved. When the newness of that love wears off we begin to see fully what that person was with faults and the good, still making the choice to love them. When presented with the unlovely attributes and the truthful hot spots, before marriage, we merely shrug them off in the high of being in love. As time passes, we either choose to love them through what they aren't, as though they are, or we begin to build up a legal file of reasons not to love that person anymore. It's easier to stay disgruntled with what the other person is not and not choose to change what we aren't, hoping that that perfect love inspires them to change as well.
If God meant for us not to have free will, He would have surrounded the Tree of Knowledge with barbed electric wire with an alarm that said that we tried to cross the boundary. Instead, He said don’t touch it. He didn’t control our access to it. That wasn’t His intention. Even after the boundary was crossed, He continued to seek out ways to have a relationship with his people. As we begin to change the lifestyle of an apathetic generation, we begin to teach the brother to father concept. Instead of being the jealous brother of the prodigal son, we become mothers and fathers to a new generation that is picking up the vision that was given to us by our Heavenly Father. The brother to father concept is a constant workout that changes the actions, making a more definite change because of the thoroughness of refining all of the areas in our life. It’s a complete workout that requires the mind, the heart and the arms to work together to strengthen the body. First love is not lost with this type of relationship with Christ. It is the beginning of changing a lifestyle, the dynamic of your very being.
We are a very controlling country that likes a clean environment. We push recycling, sanitizing, clarity, cleanliness but in truth, life is messy. When God moves, sometimes it is messy. In order for everyone to like or approve of church, we sanitize everything and wash up our fallen people instead of loving them through their own refining process. In creating such a sterile environment God has resorted to taking his message to places that we have deemed unfit so that the rest of the world can hear his message. Hollywood is a wonderful example of this. I have heard many songs recently that have struck my heart chord as I begin to see what God is saying through people that may or may not realize what they are writing about. We have turned denying ourselves into denying ourselves to feel, to have emotion, to live. In business, people in the corporate world look the same; we have business attire and a business face. It is very stoic and void of emotion. The arts compensate with a wide array of passion that we also deem as ungodly. By denying ourselves of being passionate, open armed and hearted; pushing logic and a similar front, we make everyone clean and approachable. If you do not appear the same as the rest, you are made to feel guilty and incapable, putting people in their own prison to keep them neat and tidy.
Christianity as a culture has denied ourselves so much that we also deny others out of God. It’s not about one experience with God. Nor is it about warming a seat and paying a salary to a puppet behind a pulpit. We often pull the strings of our Pastor marionette from the designated chair that we purchased, creating a gospel of our own, presented with a personal agenda. Passion is messy. Life can be messy for the good or it can also be messy in the bad. I have found my life turned upside down in a manner I never thought possible. As I explore the things that God has been laying on my heart and in my head, I have found myself a new creation in Him. I am feeling things that I have never felt before. I have loosened up the strings of what I thought was the way I was supposed to be to experience more of this new revolution of grace and love. I find myself reflecting a love for people that is so genuine and new. I see the beauty and value in them that I know that God also sees in them. I have never been an outwardly emotional person but I have found myself consumed by this sincere love towards other people. It is broadening my horizon in the way that I talk to people, in the way that I approach my peers and in the way that I feel about what would have otherwise been an intrusion of my space. My middle daughter inspires me all of the time with her lack of selection in who she finds worth in. She has a sheer joy and love for all people that is so beautiful in children. I feel like in the last couple of months, God has released that inner child in me to feel and to love others like He would want me to.
By acknowledging that life is messy, we can eliminate the guilt and deal with the consequences as they come, always being an example of God’s grace and love while we help people through the transition from a bad mess to a good mess. By allowing guilt in our life, we hinder God’s use of us. Recently, I was shocked in reading a local news article about transients. In the comments, someone referred to the homeless as “undesirables”. My heart leaped in indignation as I thought, “God doesn’t find ANYONE undesirable”. I started to develop my take on this presentation of the person’s attitude. In every social structure there are “undesirables”. They come in different forms. It weighs heavily on many hearts to reach out to the homeless and to other countries that aren’t as fortunate as we are in America. Jesus encouraged it in his ministry. I firmly believe that this is a way to open your mind and expand your heart to love people for who they are and to see the worth that God sees in them. It’s not necessarily to change them, but to adjust our own sights and develop grace in our own outlook on people in general. What hit the message home to me was what we breed in ourselves when we deem someone undesirable. We cultivate selfishness, pride and condemnation in our own hearts against people. The hang up is in ourselves and what we do when we allow those things in our life. That is sin. Those things are not fruits of the spirit no matter who they are directed to. It’s not for us to change them; it’s for us to change ourselves when we look at them. If we allow those things in our life, we block a vital connection to God.
God’s grace is for everyone. There are no qualifying factors, no levels of sin and there should not be guilt. Instead, we should have an ever seeking desire to please the one who gave us the grace to live without those things. When we allow ourselves to give guilt to others, we also incriminate ourselves, putting ourselves in a greater bondage than the person that you delivered the guilt to. God’s passion is for a relationship with people. His business IS people. Every day, we have a chance to participate in His purpose. I know that I don’t want to miss out on this incredible opportunity to bring freedom, joy, hope, love and grace to people that may not have it or haven’t fully utilized it. I want to continue to press closer to God and to hear His voice and in doing so, I don’t want to be hung up by the seeds of self that can be so easily distributed accidently. It is a new season full of passion, love and grace. Let’s live in it fully and go forward together to influence a nation in need.
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I saw an army dressed in blue emerging out of the sea and forming a human line in the sand. It was a front line, an army of the union - a civil army - assembling under a banner that was set on high and firmly planted in the sand. I saw the army leaning forward making impressions in the sand ready to advance. I believe that the Lord said, "Fix bayonets. Prepare for close quarters, up close and personal, ready for engagement." I believe the bayonet is an extension of a weapon in His hands. I saw the shiny steel glistening in the sun and I believe that He was saying, "Stay sharp. For those who hear the word and fix bayonets be ready to pierce through the veil." I believe that we will be moving in unison to advance a new line and thrust and advance the line again and again and again..... dig in. Hold. Lean in. Pierce through. Cross over. Take the beach. A new line!! A new line!! Advance.
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Matthew 10:6-8 (NIV)
“Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. As you go, preach this message: “The kingdom of heaven is near.” Heal the sick,
raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.”
In my journey of exploring how to share God’s message to others, I have began to wonder what it looks like and how to do it.
As I asked what that would look like, the answer given to me, was that as I accepted God’s love I needed to also show it,
to operate in it. In the beginning, I was intimidated by my own capacity to love. God has been dealing with my heart and
my head, showing me how to do this.
If we do not take the time to fully comprehend God’s love for us, we will not be able to fully understand how to love others.
It is the testament of his love that is so great in our lives. It fuels the desire to be closer to the one who created us. As we love him more,
we take on more of his characteristics and become more capable of portraying that love to others. We are born with the gift of sincere unrequited love from our parents, but even more so, from God. As we mature and
develop we understand what it is to show that love in return. When it is reciprocated, it’s a gift that unlocks the door to a whole
new level of knowledge and changes the dynamic of the relationship. It develops a new connection with your family and with the
Heavenly Father. It becomes a deeper level of interaction with those around you as you learn to utilize and develop that love.
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